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Poster: Longnstrange Date: Sep 14, 2010 2:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Acid test basics

Ones perception is EVERYTHING. Clif fhucker fails to get this. What kind of human being tells others that they are delusional because they had a good time? This guy is way over the line saying this kind of crap on the GRATEFUL DEAD archives. All we have is our perception, and you are all valid in liking the things you like. Don't listen to this asshole or anyone else you may meet who disrespects your experiences.

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Poster: ducats Date: Sep 14, 2010 4:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Acid test basics

I've always tried to "teach" employees to always remember;

a persons perception is their reality

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Poster: angular Date: Sep 14, 2010 4:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Acid test basics

That's good! I'm going to use that at the boring obligatory Wednesday managers meeting during the round table.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Sep 14, 2010 7:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Acid test basics

A person's perception is their reality, or Hunter's Commandments? I'm trying to picture Hunter's Commandments at a management meeting. Complete with a white board and a PowerPoint, perhaps?

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Poster: angular Date: Sep 14, 2010 8:10am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Acid test basics

The persons perception, although I am odd enough to probably get by with Hunter's commandments also. Every week we have to give a "did you know". It can be about anything, mine is usually Dead related to the point of all the others rolling their eyes. It can't all be serious, there has to be some break in all the corperate pushes.
By the way, I work for a grocery retailer. Sometimes they make it feel like you are working for Fort Knox. I come home sometimes and my wife says "Honey, relax. You sell groceries."
She's the smart one.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Sep 14, 2010 9:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Acid test basics

(keeps giggling) I'm trying to imagine this powerpoint ...

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Sep 14, 2010 5:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Acid test basics

I think the only one that's more-or-less specific to rock and roll is #10. I have not felt obliged to destroy myself physically in most work settings (unless you count the requirement to eat cake at birthday parties, which are scheduled approximately every 4 hours in my office).

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 14, 2010 12:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Acid test basics

OMG--I hate THOSE...what a pain. Avoid them like the plague. I don't have anything against sweets, but more or less parcel out what amt I am going to indulge in and would prefer they be of my own selection, and not some second rate cake from Safeway or what have you...

"...every four hrs..." whoaaa...I thought once every month or two was bad enough! Thank gawd my group has more or less given it up (too big, too impersonal, etc.).

Do I sound like an anti-social snob? Put me down for one, please.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Sep 14, 2010 5:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Acid test basics

Well, every 4 hours is a bit of an exaggeration, but yeah, they can really throw a diet off the rails. My office seems to have a cluster of August/September birthdays and they seem constant.

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Poster: deadpolitics Date: Sep 14, 2010 5:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Acid test basics

All those Christmas/New Years conceptions!

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Sep 14, 2010 6:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Acid test basics

Oh, yeah I guess so!

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Sep 14, 2010 9:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Acid test basics

Think you're being awfully thin-skinned about all this. Why don't you just accept them as highly enthusiastic affirmations of his joy in earlier Dead? No diff than if I say 'you're nuts' to my neighbor after he states an opinion. It's an expression and that's all. Actually, I think I've used delusional with my wife.

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Poster: Jim F Date: Sep 15, 2010 1:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Acid test basics

Yeah, c'mon, we're all supposed to be going off on what an asshole Cliff Hucker is and all you guys wanna do is get all philosophical and whatnot. Let's stay on task here! Geez.

This post was modified by Jim F on 2010-09-15 08:54:36

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Poster: SkyDawg Date: Sep 14, 2010 4:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Acid test basics

That's a little harsh don't you think?

I am reminded of Hunter's Ten Commandments of Rock n Roll:

1 Suck up to the Top Cats.
2 Do not express independent opinions.
3 Do not work for common interest, only factional interests.
4 If there's nothing to complain about, dig up some old gripe.
5 Do not respect property or persons other than band property or personnel.
6 Make devastating judgments on persons and situations without adequate information.
7 Discourage and confound personal, technical and/or creative projects.
8 Single out absent persons for intense criticism.
9 Remember that anything you don't understand is trying to fuck with you.
10 Destroy yourself physically and morally and insist that all true brothers do likewise as an expression of unity.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Sep 14, 2010 4:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Acid test basics

This is hysterical, and works for a lot of jobs I've had, too.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 14, 2010 11:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Acid test basics

thx, SD; hadn't seen that...taken literally, I suppose it means Hunter did have a bit of a chip on his shoulder...maybe a bit bitter. No problem with that per se, just an observation, and of course, it fits with their whole "screw the 'system' and go your own way" approach to much of what he/they did...

I do note that a few of those could be loosely applied to how JG lived; I wonder if he was thinking of him when developing some parts of the "list" (ie, self destructive aspects; not taking a strong leadership role when it might have actually been good for all concerned in the family/band/etc.).

Complete speculation of course; interesting read...

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Sep 14, 2010 12:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Acid test basics

Actually, it sounds to me like Hunter was specifically describing the Dead's crew. As you know, they weren't a flock of angels.... By all accounts, hazing & abuse were the order of the day on a Dead tour!

Garcia: "The road turns you into gristle. If you're looking for comfort, join a club or something. The Grateful Dead is not where you're going to find comfort. In fact, you'll catch a lot of shit. If you don't get it from the band, you'll get it from the roadies. They're merciless. They'll just gnaw you like a dog. They'll tear your flesh off. They can be extremely painful."

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Sep 15, 2010 1:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Acid test basics

Oh, I dunno. I suppose he was describing the whole organization. The crew may have been dog-eat-dog in particularly overt ways, but there was also just a large group of "family" who worked and interacted with each other in various ways for years on end under incredibly charged circumstances. They were part of each other's lives socially, financially, creatively -- every way possible, in various combinations. Toss in immaturity, egos, drugs, the usual personality conflicts, the sucking-up that happens whenever there's fame or power or money involved ... well, yeah, things undoubtedly got very very weird.

The fact that a fair amount of that is somewhat recognizable even from our own far more ordinary working lives also says something. If you take the usual office dysfunction, and then think of what it's like to be involved in, say, political action groups or group houses with people coming and going or social circles around bands ... then multiply that chaos and dysfunction exponentially, because of the fame and status element ... Oy! Who wouldn't want to run for the hills at some point?!? (Or for the "comfort" of various substances -- which, of course, didn't exactly make it any better.) Hat's off to anyone who kept their heads in the end.

Hunter, I'm sure, could write one heck of an Inside Story if he wanted to.

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Poster: angular Date: Sep 14, 2010 4:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Acid test basics

Phil:

1. Bring your own stash, engineers never bring their own.